As Muck Raker would put it "Un-believeable!"

You really should speak to her about publishing this clearly credible story in their fine truth-seeking pages.

As happy as I am to see you flying for... the second... maybe third time in as many years, I find it hard to believe that PIE would suddenly start humanitarian missions into Minmatar space while none were planned during my time there. That said, I would like to welcome you to contact me in the future and I will attempt to arrange safer passage through the war-zone than flying around in a Sigil. Given that PIE Inc. owns a Prorator BPO and cloaks are relatively cheap, that would be yet another safer alternative for transport, if that were your true goal. All things considered, it seems pretty obvious that you sacrificed the lives of innocent slaves, needlessly.

That sounds rather similar to what i and my fellow Covenant members do, raid unguarded settlements for easy pickings, its not as sporting as a proper engagement but you need slaves and i need fresh captures.

Well it seems we're not so different after all.

You also lacked the plans to ensure their safety, despite being more than capable of such.

And, I believe I've noted before that I'm not opposed to slavery, in principle.

It would seem that the desires of the slaves becomes a "he said, she said" conundrum rather quickly. The only safe assumption is that they have, statistically speaking, a desire to survive and therefore, you getting them killed was the worst possible outcome.

I would also disagree, simply because it is illegal.

After a hundred years of Imperial lies about their true intentions and attempts to explain away their slave raids, they continue with just that. Color me surprised.

Sure I do. I somehow doubt that they retain their right to self-determination now, though. Because you do not believe in self-determination for my kind. Glad we are back to the root of the conflict between our people.

"PIE Inc. has so far failed to present any credible proof that the people they took went with them voluntarily."


(For readers who do not follow every silly thread on IGS: Such proof is impossible to provide. PIE has recently asked for impossible-to-provide proof, and claimed that the absence of such proof is proof of the contrary.)

But here's something everyone seems to have missed. The Disciples are a neutral organisation, PIE are not.

Do you have proof of this?

Nonsense, this is you throwing your toys out of the pram on a rash action in a case of "Well they do it, so can we!"

You can't pick and choose your fans Admiral. You could create a drink brand that the Amarrian Empire simply couldn't get enough of, yet the taste of it isn't popular in the Republic, does that mean your drink is pro Amarrian? No, they're just the ones who like it.

Key word being 'occupation'. Rather than 'willing volunteers' this seems rather more likely to be 'raiding while we have the chance'.

A better life being beaten, starved, and constantly told they're worthless unless they see things your way.

I've experienced that, and I'll fight tooth-and-nail to make sure nobody else ever will.

PIE got caught violating not only Republic law but also Imperial law (or has Heideran's prohibition on slave raiding been suddenly suspended?) and then they had the audacity to blame everyone but themselves for the subsequent death and destruction. Typical. As Captain Sadik said, "color me surprised".

P.S. Grreck thanks for the compliment but, you might want to fly to Yulai and ask for a refresher course in the law. Even though you may not feel the Republic is legitimate, CONCORD, the Federation, State and your own Empire see things differently.

Provide proof that they were volunteers.

Not carefully planned and written 'proof', but actual evidence that any one of those people were on that ship willingly.

How very convenient.

Heideran made the concession that your current rulers will not: that living beings are not items to be traded.

It is not fair that you can invade, enslave, slaughter, and ****, and then turn around and whine about "innocent lives being lost or risked". Are you ******* kidding me?! Get back down into mud holes you dirty rotten ******* pigs. Stay out of our space entirely.

I'm selling slaves in almost any system in Metropolis. Cheaper than dirt...... At least you can grow tomatoes in the dirt, fertilized by the slaves' corpses. I wouldn't recommend eating those rotten tomatoes though, unless you're minmatar, but then you can't read this message anyway.

Slaves come already lobotomized to minimize the chance of Sansha Nation and their constant "BWAINZZZZZZ" space zombie trash attack on your POS.

Calling enslavers vile and putrid, then admitting he is an enslaver himself, colour it in god all you like its very much the same thing, free labour for yourself and your empire.

You trade them scraps of food and pipe dreams of freedom in exchange for their very lives, they are paid in the most basic of amenities with little or no hope of ever becoming free except in death.

It's easy to avoid bankruptcy when you're not allowed to own anything in the first place.

Just saying.

Did you just honestly say that "we are horrible at educating these people, hence you may not remove them from our hands"?


PS. It's amusing to see how Amarrians can, without flinching, switch from "but we're freeing slaves, just show some patience, the Empress is doing that!" to "we won't free anyone and would love to enslave more of those who do not believe in God" depending on whether they feel like they are on the defensive or on the offensive in a given thread. If you really wonder why others do not trust your word, that is why. Though I suspect you do not actually wonder, you only say so for effect.

I agree, seven centuries is a long time to be patient. I think the time for patience is over, perhaps it's time to claim the reclaimers, but as they are claimed let them also be liberated, to the darkest corners of the Bleak Lands, and into the furthest reaches of the Great Wildlands. And ye while they walk through the valley of the Thukker, past the hungry eyes of the Blood Raiders, abandoned to their fate, made to be the prey where once they were the predator, let us descend upon Domain and render it to dust...

Ashes to ashes, dust to dust, your empire is failing, PREPARE TO TASTE THE RUST.